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Post by Simey on Feb 14, 2010 10:26:35 GMT -5
Only one Jamaican and he's a skier. Why no bobsledders? Jamaica has plenty of sprinters and sprinters make the best bobsledders! Yeah, I was disappointed with that too. How hard can it be to maintain bobsledding greatness on a Carribean island? My choice was definitely between Finland and Russia. I maybe went with the less obvious of the two, but I reckon them Finns could spring a surprise or two. The Red Machine is still intimidatingly awesome though, so I may well regret it. Cool that all whose countries are represented have got their own teams. Two days to go. And I'm on lates most of the week, so can stay up to watch the matches! Yay! ;D
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Post by Simey on Feb 14, 2010 10:59:20 GMT -5
Rule Change Suggestion
This is only a suggestion - if anyone's not happy with it, I'm perfectly happy to go with what we've got.
I was trying to think of how to reward a team that works hard even to achieve very little - it shows good spirit when a win becomes out of the question, so dominating is the opposition, but a team fights on hard nevertheless. So I was wondering about a slight adjustment to the points awarded for goals scored.
Instead of having 1 point for each three full goals scored, you could have: 1 point for the first goal scored; 1 point for the next two goals scored; 1 point for the next three goals scored; and so on. So:
1 goal scored in a match = 1 point 2 goals scored in a match = 1 point 3 goals scored in a match = 2 points 4 goals scored in a match = 2 points 5 goals scored in a match = 2 points 6 goals scored in a match = 3 points 7 goals scored in a match = 3 points 8 goals scored in a match = 3 points 9 goals scored in a match = 3 points 10 goals scored in a match = 4 points
This way, teams scoring silly numbers of goals don't really lose out - at fifteen goals (!) you still reach 5 points just as before - but a losing team plucky enough to fight on late into the third period and grab a single goal before the end does get a reward for their efforts. True, it is slightly more complicated to figure out the points scored in a match, but that'll be my job really, and it's not actually hard.
Just an idea. What does everyone think?
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Post by jan on Feb 14, 2010 11:28:20 GMT -5
Oh, that's a nice idea! I agree! In this way, even the weakest teams would be able to get some points, and it would make our game more interesting! I'm just not sure if I understood the rules correctly. I'm perfectly satisfied with the table, it looks very fair and well balanced to me, but I'm not sure if the rules "1 point for the first goal scored; 1 point for the next two goals scored; 1 point for the next three goals scored" correspond with the table. Wouldn't this description mean that 1G = 1P, 2G and 3G = 2P, 4G and 5G and 6G = 3P? But never mind - as I said, I like the table.
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Post by Simey on Feb 14, 2010 12:32:08 GMT -5
The way I was thinking was that if you score 1 goal you get 1 point. You then have to score a further 2 goals to score another point. After that you need to score another three goals to score another point.
So 1 goal in total = 1 point. A total of 2 goals? Still 1 point, because you have to score 2 more in order to get another point.
However, this....
....might work just as well - it's just a bit more generous.
Further thoughts?
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Post by jan on Feb 14, 2010 12:47:51 GMT -5
Ah, I see! I misunderstood you. The system you sketched in the "table" seems fine to me!
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Post by Doomy on Feb 14, 2010 19:03:07 GMT -5
Sounds like a fun little wrinkle that won't over-complicate matters so I'm all for it.
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Post by Doomy on Feb 15, 2010 8:04:58 GMT -5
I know this is rather off-topic, but can anyone see my avatar?
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Post by Samildanach on Feb 15, 2010 10:00:16 GMT -5
I know this is rather off-topic, but can anyone see my avatar? I can't. EDIT: Oh. Now I can again. My sig image disappeared for a little while too. Weird.
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Post by jan on Feb 15, 2010 10:38:32 GMT -5
I know this is rather off-topic, but can anyone see my avatar? I can see your avatar but I cannot see Samildanach's one! That seems to be a Matrix situation! *runs*
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Post by Black Cat on Feb 15, 2010 12:02:03 GMT -5
My next pick: Belarus. Why no bobsledders? Jamaica has plenty of sprinters and sprinters make the best bobsledders! [/quote] I was surprise by all the little nations with no winter that are taking part to these games: Ethiopia, Ghana, Bahamas, Cayman Islands... Most of their athletes are either born in another country and have the citizenship of these places where summer seems to last forever, or were born there and moved somewhere else. I'm suriously thinking of getting Jamaican citizenship and bring back a bobsleigh team. Who wants to come with me? ;D And as for the opening ceremonies, that was a very, very disapointing show for all the French-speaking Canadians. We represent nearly a quarter of the country's population and yet, apart from one song, no French was spoken during the show (I'm not counting the IOC president's speech or the judges oath). They have even translated in English part of a poem written by a francophone! Canada is supposed to be officially a bilingual country and yet, a lot of people feel that was not clearly represented at the opening ceremonies. Because of this sort of scandal, words are that they working hard to change the closing ceremony to add more French in it.
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Post by jan on Feb 15, 2010 12:13:23 GMT -5
OK, so we're complete! BC has Belarus, AS Norway as she wanted, and Latvia goes to Simey: Simey (Finland) - AS (Sweden) - BC (Canada) - Doomy (Russia) - ETB (USA) - Jan (Czech Republic) - Jan (Slovakia) - ETB (Germany) - Doomy (Switzerland) - BC (Belarus) - AS (Norway) - Simey (Latvia). The die is cast!
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Post by Doomy on Feb 15, 2010 12:34:01 GMT -5
According to the betting site I just looked at, the medallists will be Canada, Russia and Sweden (likely in that order).
Oddly, I can see my avatar when I'm at work but not here at home.
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Post by Simey on Feb 16, 2010 4:43:24 GMT -5
Because of this sort of scandal, words are that they working hard to change the closing ceremony to add more French in it. Ooh - interesting stuff. You'd think they'd be more careful about that sort of thing these days. If the ceremony had been more Vancouver and British Colombia focused, it might have been understandable, but it was clearly meant to present Canada as a whole to the world, so such an omission is a very silly mistake. I actually heard a commentator the other day - a British one, though, not Canadian - describe French as Canada's second language, and I was immediately thinking, 'Er, I think you might find Canada's officially bilingual!' To get things like that wrong when you're being paid to do a job directly related to a country is a bit daft. I have to be honest though and admit that I didn't notice the lack of French in the opening ceremony. But this could have been that I got a bit bored and stopped watching. The first nations stuff and the four figures was cool - nice and simple and effective. And getting the athletes in early was great. But whilst it continued to be spectacular, after that there was a lot of reliance on computer graphics. Combining such amazing visual technology with live performers was great, but I thought there were too many times when there were few or no live performers and it was just like watching an enormous computer screen - impressive, but not very interesting. Thankfully, a lot of the sports are great! I was watching the boarder-cross last night and it was amazing! Completely crazy, but utterly brilliant! But today it gets even better - the hockey begins!
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Post by Simey on Feb 16, 2010 4:57:24 GMT -5
And so we line up as follows: Aguila Saber: A pairing of Scandinavian neighbours, Sweden and Norway.Black Cat: An interesting teaming of the host nation which invented the game ( there's a double advantage if you like! ;D ) with, way across in Europe, one of the continent's least known countries. Canada and Belarus.Doomy: A bit of a contrast of stereotypes, bringing together the mighty Red Machine that would sweep all before it and Europe's neutral centre, a haven of calm. Russia and Switzerland.EvilTB: Well, if you want dominance of world sport, here you have it! Europe's powerhouse is frequently the master of football (soccer) - the biggest sport in the world. And when it comes to heading up medals tables in big events, the Land of the Free is always there or thereabouts. Does their sporting prowess extend so readily to hockey? Germany and the USA.Jan: Another neighbourly team, bringing together once more what used to be one - would it be offensive to call this 'Team Czechoslovakia'? - with two fairly small countries with very strong hockey traditions. The Czech Republic and Slovakia.Simey: Baltic almost-neighbours that may not be the biggest names, but could provide some dark-horse success. Finland and Latvia.If you take the world rankings into account, our hot favourite is Doomy! Followed by BC, AS and me with equal odds, Jan, and the outside chance, ETB. Place your bets! By the way, any objections to the slight rule change suggested above? We've had two positive thoughts, so I'll use it unless someone doesn't like it. Anyway, good luck all!
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Post by Doomy on Feb 16, 2010 5:12:59 GMT -5
Excellent effort at colour commentary there Simey!
I just wish the Games were in a more sensible time zone, can't really stay up to watch much though I've enjoyed the fleeting glimpses I have managed.
Any British medal prospects?
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