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Post by Balgin Stondraeg on Apr 22, 2008 16:16:27 GMT -5
With regard to Adrics comments about working as a team - yeah, I can see how Adric could be a good team-mate, in a military environment were people are trained the same and would have a rough idea what each team member would do. It was just this was about as un-military like a group of people one could find! (By that I mean that we were so diverse!) Ah, but as far as he was concerned that was no exuse for sloppy behaviour. And he shouldn't need to tell them that. The fact that he hadn't been abroad much didn't help him to realise what the problem was. |
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Post by Al on Apr 22, 2008 16:25:12 GMT -5
With regard to Adrics comments about working as a team - yeah, I can see how Adric could be a good team-mate, in a military environment were people are trained the same and would have a rough idea what each team member would do. It was just this was about as un-military like a group of people one could find! (By that I mean that we were so diverse!) Ah, but as far as he was concerned that was no exuse for sloppy behaviour. And he shouldn't need to tell them that. The fact that he hadn't been abroad much didn't help him to realise what the problem was. It was obvious to me that the issues with Adric were culturally based - why would he assume that we would not understand what "everyone understands" |
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Post by zipp on Apr 22, 2008 18:06:34 GMT -5
Although i'm still surpirsed everyone on the ishir's breath didn't die! I cannot believe I lost my boots! I have to say, it was difficult keeping you all alive there. I didn't expect the dwarf to think that Satori wasn't real. Certainly the one holding her hostage didn't expect that. And don't think you'd seen the last of them either. Al would have had a chance to get his boots back ^_^ |
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Post by Beowuuf on Apr 22, 2008 23:59:44 GMT -5
Yeah, you could kind of feel the hand of the GM there! I'm not sure what I would have done in your place. You don't want to be a jerk and kill off any characters that early for not following your plot, but at the same time you don't want to render a bad guy toothless because of meta knowledge that you surely can't just kill them all if they push their luck  You even did try to kill Satori and it didn't work! |
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Post by zipp on Apr 23, 2008 0:52:53 GMT -5
Yeah, you could kind of feel the hand of the GM there! I'm not sure what I would have done in your place. You don't want to be a jerk and kill off any characters that early for not following your plot, but at the same time you don't want to render a bad guy toothless because of meta knowledge that you surely can't just kill them all if they push their luck You even did try to kill Satori and it didn't work! Well, a cruel GM would've killed her. A vindictive GM would've killed Adric. I don't remember what I actually did. I think they knocked you out or something? The bad guy ended up being really nice, giving you that little boat ^_^ Probably what I should've done is had them take all of your starting equipment. |
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Post by Al on Apr 23, 2008 1:14:15 GMT -5
Probably what I should've done is had them take all of your starting equipment. They did! They took everything that I had, my boots, my weapons, my GOLD! LOL, and I was the one being sensible! (Unless you count my newby mistake of not fully understanding how swimming works and diving in the water not having the appropriate skill!) |
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Post by Beowuuf on Apr 23, 2008 1:35:36 GMT -5
Yeah, yopu pretty much had the main bad guy bluster alot, and then somehow had everyone knocked unconscious and tied up i na boat, and Satori you had her throat slit then the cat goddess replenish her
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Post by Al on Apr 23, 2008 7:55:16 GMT -5
I had no problems with the axe being removed from his hands (he could've dropped it) but the gun being removed without displacing the two objects on top of it/sandwiching it to his body simply didn't make sense. I am not sure you ever fully explained that was how your kit was packed, as if it was, I am not sure the GM would have allowed for that - as someone who is used to going great distances with a lot of weight on his back, I know that how you describe it would not just be uncomfortable, but debilitating after a while. Something shaped like a rifle would have to go on the outside strapped either along the top, down a side, or along the back, but between ruck and back would not work (and would probably damage the firing mechanism on the rifle, assuming it is some sort of flint-lock system. |
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Post by Al on Apr 23, 2008 7:57:13 GMT -5
Al would have had a chance to get his boots back ^_^ If we did end up taking back the boat, you can rest assured that my boots would have been priority numero uno! Especially if a bad guy was wearing them! |
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Post by zipp on Apr 25, 2008 17:48:33 GMT -5
So, out of curiousity... what was everyone's next move going to be?
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Post by Balgin Stondraeg on Apr 25, 2008 18:28:26 GMT -5
So, out of curiousity... what was everyone's next move going to be? You needed to ask? |
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Post by Al on Apr 26, 2008 2:32:31 GMT -5
So, out of curiousity... what was everyone's next move going to be? I cannot remember - someone was taken by the spiders so I would have tried to work with the rest of the team to get them back |
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Post by Beowuuf on Apr 26, 2008 2:44:35 GMT -5
Yeah, I think Cat was the same, just trying to react to the confusing spider issues.
In general, Cat would been manouvering to get the pendant and figuring out the ranger. Due to the delays near the end, I think Cat had forgotten the real purpose of the trip because I had forgotten the real purpose of the trip! Something about evil in the forest?
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Post by Al on Apr 26, 2008 4:58:32 GMT -5
Yeah, I think Cat was the same, just trying to react to the confusing spider issues. In general, Cat would been manouvering to get the pendant and figuring out the ranger. Due to the delays near the end, I think Cat had forgotten the real purpose of the trip because I had forgotten the real purpose of the trip! Something about evil in the forest? We were looking for a missing ranger, IIRC, and there were reports of bad dudes. All I remember is killing a few giaks before a doomwolf lunged for my throat, and Cat throwing stink bombs at it! Then some big scary spiders encircled us and carted of Berkos. Adric was having a PM side adventure, so I have no idea what was going on with him, making his posts here all the more confusing to me! |
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Post by Bewildered Badger on Apr 26, 2008 8:52:20 GMT -5
OK, I've already explained Moon Owl's attitudes to wards the others at the end of the first story. To recap, he is cautious in giving his trust to the non-Sommerlending. He does not distrust them, that is, he does not believe that any of them are in league with evil. He does however recognise that as foreigners they will be motivated to serve their own people first, and may thus put Sommerlund's interest second. He did have a high regard for Adric.
In addition he does not regard either Berkos or Cat as fully reliable (sorry guys!). Berkos due to his actions at the dock, and Cat for, well, being Cat really.
A few things had changed during the second adventure. Tyrste's sudden arrival at the village looked very suspicious, though her actions stand in her favour: Moon Owl is still reserving judgment.
His opinion on Cap'n Al hasn't changed much, he appreciates the pirate looking after Cat, though isn't sure he's a good influence.
He is very unsure of Goyangi, as he finds the arrival of a second cat creature stretches credulity.
Akono is still an enigma, though there is one matter of significance. When they captured the Artifact Moon Owl identified three people who might be able to resist it's magical influences: Tyrste, due to her single mindedness, Cat, trained in the ways of magic, and Akono with his mystical senses. Tyrste was still untrusted, and Cat seemed to be too close to Al. That left Akono. To Moon Owl's disappointment the Kundi refused to have anything to do with the artifact. Ironically, even without Mind Shield, Moon Owls WILL save was the highest of the group, he was the best choice to carry it! That's assuming of course that there was a malign magical influence causing the group so much discontent: it may have been simple greed! Certainly Moon Owl's own behaviour was motivated solely by a desire to get it to the BCS for study. It was readily apparent that at least one other had their own agenda...
Which leads me on to Adric. Even before the artifact was discovered Moon Owl had issues with the Dwarf. At one point he asked Adric his purpose in Sommerlund. He received no answer. That, coupled with the arguments about the artifact, has disturbed Moon Owl. Adric was the only one he felt he could really rely on. Now that is gone.
When the decision was made to scout out the Giak camp, it seemed obvious that they would need to go quietly. Berkos' armour would be much to noisy, so Moon Owl insisted on the Squire wearing something lighter. Still convinced that the Battle of Toran Harbour was a disaster that could have been avoided with effective leadership, he was determined that Berkos would do what he was told. He did not want the knight to ruin things again.
Yet as it happened things still went badly wrong. The spider ambush in the forest came as a complete surprise. Worse yet, Moon Owl now blames himself, for if Berkos had been better protected he might not have fallen at the start of battle. With their best fighter present the fight could well have gone their way. He has started to doubt his own judgment on many things.
He still has enough tactical sense to ensure that they prevent Akono being captured, as the Kundi's tracking abilities would be essential to finding and rescuing the others. With his confidence gone he'd now look to the others for guidance, although if pressed he'd suggest first looking for Adric and the Ranger. If they are captured they would likely be at the same location as the others, so nothing is lost. If they are still free then they can help with the rescue attempt.
What he does afterwards depends on the circumstances. He does however think it highly likely that there is a link between the spiders and the 'Red Ghosts' they had been sent to investigate.
If any of the above had not come out naturally through chapter two, I was planning on having Moon Owl admit it in an attempt to clear things up with the others. Also, given the severe blow to his self confidence, he would have to do a lot of soul searching. I meant to inform Zipp of my plans, and if given the OK I would have had Moon Owl leave the others and return to the Monastery, a 'Breaking Of The Fellowship' moment. Nice and dramatic! We would of course have to find a way to get them all to meet.
I got the impression (it may be completely wrong) that 'Blood Moon Rising' would follow, in which case Moon Owl could easily be sent on patrol and just happen to run into the others south of Toran. Perhaps they had been sent in search of the missing Brotherhood agent. At any rate there are ways and means to get the group, or those who still wish to be part of it, back together.
Of course this gets us no closer to acquiring that mysterious object Zipp alluded to. Don't suppose it could be lying next to the Shianlune Bow...?
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