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Post by Aguila Saber on Dec 22, 2008 11:17:16 GMT -5
There is a possible contradiction - how can it be a rare shrub yet grow all over Magnamund? Hmmm.... Laumspur seems quite common, at least common when compared to any other herb.
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Post by Swiftstrike on Dec 22, 2008 11:25:32 GMT -5
It is described as rare in the first sourse listed.
In terms of source will the listing of source be ok as I have done it, or is there a need to list them?
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Post by Aguila Saber on Dec 22, 2008 11:41:18 GMT -5
It is described as rare in the first sourse listed. In terms of source will the listing of source be ok as I have done it, or is there a need to list them? It is fine to include in the file you send me. I will not include it in the encyclopedia but it may be of use to us in the wiki, so keep it. I think depsite the first reference I think we will need to consider Laumspur common. Later books refutes that the herb is rare by placing it in so many shops.
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Post by Doomy on Dec 22, 2008 12:08:13 GMT -5
It would be cool if the refs, where applicable, linked to the actual section on PA. But over the course of several articles that will add up to a lot of work. To be honest, even singling out the reference numbers is a substantial bit of work in itself, unless they are already given elsewhere.
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Post by Swiftstrike on Dec 22, 2008 12:28:42 GMT -5
I got them by downloading the books to my harddrive off Project Aon and them doing a search for term (Laumspur) inside the folder where I keep them it's actually quite easy that way and covers off most of the refernces quickly.
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Post by Doomy on Dec 22, 2008 13:12:30 GMT -5
An early version of my article on the Sommlending, based on the Magnamund Companion. Feedback welcome.
The Sommlending people, an Ulnarian race of humans, were created by the god Kai to resist the Darklord invasion of Northern Magnamund. Led by King Kian from an archipegalo in the Northern Void, they settled in the Lastlands in MS 3434. They saved Northern Magnamund from Darklands forces led by Darklord Vashna, but this was just the beginning of a centuries-long war culminating in the slaying of Vashna by King Ulnar at the Battle of the Maakengorge. The feudal kingdom boasts four great cities - Holmgard, Toran, Anskaven and Tyso, commanded by the Barons of Sommerlund, powerful warrior lords loyal to the king. At the age of seven every Sommlending swears loyalty to the King – the Oath of Fehmarn, which is renewed annually at the Feast of Fehmarn, on the first day of Spring. A diverse people, the Sommlending are craftsmen, merchants and farmers as well as warriors, with the wealthiest given the title of Fryemen of the Realm, freed of baronial service. Another honorific is that of Fryearl - awarded to those who distinguish themselves in battle. This title awards equivalent status to a Baron. Another noble class is the Knights of the Realm, elite warriors of noble birth, who each provide at least 200 troops in times of need. Sommlending worship Kai, their creator and Ishir, the Goddess of the Moon and ally of Kai. The constant threat of war means the Sommlending are a martial society, with every child trained to fight. Naturally-gifted warriors are encouraged to join the small but superbly trained and equipped army, which consists of the Border Rangers and the Border Guard. Those who show an aptitude for magic are recruited into the magicians' guild - the Brotherhood of the Crystal Star. In the year 3810 the Baron of Toran became known as Sun Eagle and founded the First Order of the Kai, a cadre of elite warrior-monks charged with protecting the security of the kingdom. The Sommlending and Durenese peoples have a long-standing alliance which has helped ensure the survival of both realms despite the constant Darklord threat. After the First Order was exterminated in 5050 MS, the sole survivor Lone Wolf founded a new order, known as the Second Order of the Kai. Even after the destruction of the Darklands capital Helgedad in 5067, the Sommlending people have faced constant threat from servants of Naar, the god of evil.
Sources: The Magnamund Companion
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Post by Aguila Saber on Dec 22, 2008 14:05:45 GMT -5
The Sommlending people, an Ulnarian race of humans, were created by the god Kai to resist the Darklord invasion of Northern Magnamund. I'd like Ulnarian to be a category. You should list this last in the article. You do not need to mention it within the article. The MC says that Kai and Ishir sent them (page 15.) You have a source which contradicts this ? Another honorific is that of Fryearl - awarded to those who distinguish themselves in battle. This title awards equivalent status to a Baron. Try use another phrasing or a simpler word. Another noble class is the Knights of the Realm, elite warriors of noble birth, who each provide at least 200 troops in times of need. Avoid using the term class. Classes are game related. Sommlending worship Kai, their creator and Ishir, the Goddess of the Moon and ally of Kai. I think it is normally considered the other way around here. Do you have a reference for Kai creating them (as opposed to sending them) ? Naturally-gifted warriors are encouraged to join the small but superbly trained and equipped army, which consists of the Border Rangers and the Border Guard. Surely, the normal would be receiving training at your Lord's or Baron's castle? Not sure why you list the above regiments. Many people will aspire to do other things than defending the borders. I'm thinking of for instance Marines and the like. ,a cadre of elite warrior-monks charged with protecting the security of the kingdom. Since this is the description of the Sommlending race and not Sommerlund, perhaps you should here mention the specifics of the Sommlending one of which is the ability to develope Kai disciplines. Rather than stating the specifics in terms of the nation Sommerlund. Some of the earlier sections may need to be amended on the same grounds. Even after the destruction of the Darklands capital Helgedad in 5067, the Sommlending people have faced constant threat from servants of Naar, the god of evil. Helgedad was destroyed in MS 5070. The last sentence is not Sommlending specific. It applies to every good aligned people in Magnamund. Looks good. It is about the proper length. Try to keep the information to what is specific to the race as opposed to the nation. You might want to mention the Sommerswerd as well. It is a very specific gift from the Gods to the Sommlending. I think I've seen some sources mention that Kai created this blade. Hopefully the above comments are helpful.
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Post by Doomy on Dec 22, 2008 15:20:26 GMT -5
Thanks for the feedback. Now to respond: I'd like Ulnarian to be a category. You should list this last in the article. You do not need to mention it within the article. OK, noted. Sort of. That was based on this wiki, but the article may be incorrect: lonewolf.wikia.com/wiki/SommlendingHmm, not sure why this is necessary. It means using several words where one would do. It's a 'noble class', rather than a 'character class'. Perhaps the best thing to do is have an article on LWRPG character classes which can be linked to when appropriate. Not using the word "class" here results in more clunkiness IMO. The same wiki article referenced earlier, but as you say it may be incorrect. The Desert Lynx page says they were created by Kai AND Ishir. You are correct, there is no need to mention units within the army in this article. Noted, the Sommlending's Jedi-like qualities should be briefly expanded upon. Hmm. Is that based on The Story So Far from Book 13? There are a few dates floating about, including MS 5075. Not sure where I got '67 from, it could be a typo. If you can give a canon citation we'll go with it. Agreed. The final sentence is in fact so generally applicable it can be deleted entirely. My lack of familiarity with the later books shows through here. Yeah, the Sommerswerd deserves a mention here in addition to its own article, probably during the reference to Ulnar and the Maakengorge. And yes, your feedback is most helpful. Get back to me on the few points above and I'll do a redraft. Edit: We also need to agree a consistent style for dates: MS XXXX or XXXX MS?
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Post by zipp on Dec 22, 2008 15:31:25 GMT -5
If you need proof readers, I'd be happy to help with that.
I also think the dates should read MS XXXX because, if I recall, that's how they read in the books.
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Post by Swiftstrike on Dec 22, 2008 15:32:30 GMT -5
Isn't the consistences for date ---- Ms is before moonstone and MS---- after moonstoneAdgana leaves Alether Azawood Leaves Baknar oil Bronin Vest Bronin Warhammer Calacena Crystal Star pendant Crossbow Dagger of Vashna Demeril Root Doomstones Druse tree Ezeran acid Fireseed Gallowbrush Gnadurn sap Gnallia Gold Crown Golta leaves Graveweed Helshezag Jala Jewelled Mace Karmo Lacaress Laumspur Laumwort Larnuma Oil Leafwater Lorestones Lune Kagonite Chainmail Kazim Stone Korlinium Scabbard Mustow pods Naptha Ogosho Oxydine Phinomel Pod Psychic Ring Rendalim's Elixir Saltpetre Sabito Silver Bow Of Duadon Silver Bracers Silver Helm Sommerswerd Senara Flowers Tarama Seeds Taunor water Temeris potion Volko berries Wheels of Death Yabari, Salve of Yaku Plant Zakutsk Leaf Will be the item list I am starting off please feel free to add anything I can list it will grow from this.
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Post by Doomy on Dec 22, 2008 15:40:40 GMT -5
If you need proof readers, I'd be happy to help with that. I also think the dates should read MS XXXX because, if I recall, that's how they read in the books. Great, thanks. We can also use contributed articles from anyone who can find the time, as this is likely to be a very large project. At the moment, Swifty is in charge of entries relating to items, while I'm in charge of races. AS is overall project leader. Ideally, more people will be able to take on "departments" as listed by AS above. The "gods" category shouldn't take that long to do... Swiftstrike - you may wish to include a list of basic weapon/armour types found in the books.
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Post by Beowuuf on Dec 22, 2008 15:48:05 GMT -5
Does it mean it grows in plenty of places, but in each place it is few in number?
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Post by Swiftstrike on Dec 22, 2008 15:48:18 GMT -5
Due to pure volume of items I plan to stay away from items found outside of magnamund, unless very rare in mgnamund as these descriptions can be found anywhere.
We could cover it with a rarely found in wild due to extensive gathering reducing number of plants but this mean assumption, Also could go with the idea it is rare around the monastery and that Lonewolf a young boy would not know it was common elsewhere.
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Post by Aguila Saber on Dec 22, 2008 16:08:35 GMT -5
Isn't the consistences for date ---- Ms is before moonstone and MS---- after moonstone Yes, this is correct.
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Post by Doomy on Dec 22, 2008 16:20:29 GMT -5
A few more items: Vordak Gem, Deathstaff, Black Cube/Nadziranim Power Crystal (Book 12, section 40 among others), Crystal Explosive, Zejar-dulaga.
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