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Post by Redbeard on Aug 17, 2008 8:26:46 GMT -5
I was perusing the mongoose publishing site when I came upon an errata section. Evidently the whole equipment section of Chasm of Doom was lost. I looked it through and I found out that you could get a bow! Nice change!
Now to my question, is it used as often as in the other books (from book 13 and forwards it looses much of its appeal in my opinion, since there are Kai-Alchemy and Magi-Magic to be found instead, but still its a nice object to possess)?
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Post by Maerin on Aug 17, 2008 12:15:07 GMT -5
Well, there are quite a few books between the first occasion one can get a bow (whether it is Book 4 or Book 6) and the Grandmaster series. During that entire period of time, the bow remains quite useful, particularly if one devotes Kai Weaponmastery to it fairly early on. It also remains useful to a Grandmaster who does not dedicate one of his/her available Disciplines to either Kai Alchemy or Magi-Magic (particularly in the first few Grandmaster gamebooks). So I guess I am not certain what exactly you might be asking here.
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Post by Beowuuf on Aug 17, 2008 12:37:28 GMT -5
There is no bow in the kai series - the errata accidentally called upon the book six equipment list, not the book four equipment list. This lack of bow in the body of the book has not changed.
In the kai series, the only time you get to shoot the bow is to kill the main captain guy in CoD, and you still don't keep the bow afterwards
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Post by Black Cat on Aug 17, 2008 13:39:14 GMT -5
They need to make an errata of the errata...
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Post by Simey on Aug 17, 2008 14:55:51 GMT -5
There is no bow in the kai series - the errata accidentally called upon the book six equipment list, not the book four equipment list. Oh dear. One can but slowly shake one's head. It was always a hugely ambitious project, of course, so it was never likely to be plain sailing, but it's been a year now and they seem not to have got anything right yet, with even double errors being made like the above and the reprinting of the faulty version of Book 3 instead of the corrected one. Here's very, very strongly hoping that the Magnakai series sees them get a handle on it and produce some good work first time out - those that have parted with their money deserve it, and those (like me) who have been repeatedly put off parting with their money by the persistent problems might be persuaded to start spending. By the way, I keep forgetting to ask - what is the Somerswerd's CS bonus in the new Book 2?
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Post by Doomy on Aug 17, 2008 15:00:18 GMT -5
By the way, I keep forgetting to ask - what is the Somerswerd's CS bonus in the new Book 2? It's the same as always.
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Post by Maerin on Aug 17, 2008 15:16:10 GMT -5
In the kai series, the only time you get to shoot the bow is to kill the main captain guy in CoD, and you still don't keep the bow afterwards Actually, in Shadows On the Sand you have the potential to be able to shoot a jar off its hook as a distraction. So there are a couple potentials. Again, though, you are not given the option of retaining the bow.
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Post by Beowuuf on Aug 17, 2008 15:29:40 GMT -5
ah., that rings a bell...
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Post by Simey on Aug 17, 2008 15:52:23 GMT -5
Darn it. I really thought he'd take the opportunity to rethink the very unbalancing nature of the Sommerswerd. Unless the assumption is now that anyone buying the new version books will have all of them and the post-Sommerswerd are being beefed-up as a result. Though I can see that leading to a situation where a giak in Book 1 has a CS of 12 and a giak in Book 9 has a CS of 20 just because they're assuming that you have the Sommerswerd. A halving of its CS bonus would have seemed a better idea. Never mind.
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Post by Doomy on Aug 17, 2008 16:02:54 GMT -5
While we're talking about balancing the combats for campaign play, it would be nice if books 18 onwards are a bit harder too. It seems Joe kinda forgot about the +1CS, +2EP bonus per GM book around that point.
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Post by Balgin Stondraeg on Aug 30, 2008 16:45:09 GMT -5
There is no bow in the kai series - the errata accidentally called upon the book six equipment list, not the book four equipment list. This lack of bow in the body of the book has not changed. During a battle in bok 4 it is possible to pick up a bow and fire an arrow but you don't get to keep it. Archery first arrives in book 6 (with the chance to gain a magical bow as well). Gaining a magical bow was problematic 'though since the Sommerwerd, Dagger of Vashna and the Silver Bow of Duanon were all weapons. In the Mongoose editions the Sommerswerd and the Dagger of Vashna are now "weapon like special items that do not take up weapon slots" thus freeing up the "let's leave the ancient evil artifact dagger lying around for some peasant to pick up" problem. I don't remember the "safe storage" thing 'till at least book 7 or 8. I recall some memorable occassions for archery in books 8 and 9 (around 2 or 3 in each, maybe less). I never played books 10-12 (didn't have them) so I can't vouch for those. Archery is present in the gamebooks but it's not overdone (since it's neither mandatory or required) and it certainly makes some situations easier to deal with. I'm fairly certain that was Mind Over Matter (and it was 3 or 4 jars on a roof overlooking the square).
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Post by Aguila Saber on Aug 30, 2008 17:02:44 GMT -5
I'm fairly certain that was Mind Over Matter (and it was 3 or 4 jars on a roof overlooking the square). I think Beowuuf is referring to section #56 in Book 5 where you find and can use a Jakan Bow which is only reachable if you do not have Mind Over Matter. Incidentally, if you have Mind Over Matter, you end up with overturning a Tun as a distraction instead. (Section #95 to #184).
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crymson
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Post by crymson on Aug 30, 2008 19:38:03 GMT -5
You can keep the Jakan bow in the new edition of Shadow on the Sand as well; not sure if you can in the original or not.
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Post by wildhorse on Aug 31, 2008 2:37:59 GMT -5
Well, it was not stated that explicitly in the original.
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Post by koreth on Sept 1, 2008 21:25:52 GMT -5
Sure, it's probably not explicitly stated that you don't take the jakan, but I sure don't get the sense you can take it. Not sure why you want it...there isn't any rules or statements on saying you can use it as a weapon.
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