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Book 5
Jul 23, 2008 6:15:52 GMT -5
Post by Beowuuf on Jul 23, 2008 6:15:52 GMT -5
Woohoo, just received it! Flicked through it while on lunch, and have a few comments (nothing bad) - the map is viewable, and has the correct number of cities - the binding and rounded spin seem fine, the general print quality seems fine - the equipment sections is - deliberately i believe - missing choices. So, this might be something that was also deliberate in the previous book 4, just not edited properly afterwards. However, clearly in this book, you get a tiny amount of money, you have your basic cloak, etc, the map at the front of the book, and that's that! If you have played previous books, you can be armed to the teeth, as a starting player, you are the unarmed envoy of sommerlund. It makes me think that reading the book through as a stand alone is akin to a 'harder difficulty' setting, or at least designed to be interesting due to lack of resources - art quality as before in the main adventure, but all the end fight illustrations now show haakon, who looks similar to the front illustration - the secondary adventure sees you as tispsa, as we knew - he has a 'way' to choose out of three to flavour him (like a discipline) - the art in the secondary adventure seems different to the main, and interesting style for the tomb's surroundings - apparently, in the USA this book was cost $21.95! When did books get so expensive Umm, yeah, that's about all I have, maybe i've missed something or forgotten something, but that's all I have to report right now
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Book 5
Jul 23, 2008 6:58:56 GMT -5
Post by methos on Jul 23, 2008 6:58:56 GMT -5
lucky you i hope i will receive mine in the next few days canĀ“t wait to hold it in my hands
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Book 5
Jul 23, 2008 11:05:10 GMT -5
Post by Aguila Saber on Jul 23, 2008 11:05:10 GMT -5
Interesting. What is the name of the 7th city?
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Book 5
Jul 23, 2008 11:24:05 GMT -5
Post by Beowuuf on Jul 23, 2008 11:24:05 GMT -5
Oh, the city is there, it was just never flagged...
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Book 5
Jul 23, 2008 11:57:31 GMT -5
Post by Black Cat on Jul 23, 2008 11:57:31 GMT -5
Interesting. What is the name of the 7th city? You've never heard of the problem in book 5 about the puzzle in section 331? There are seven cities in Vassagonia and they were supposed to be each identified with a flag on the map. However, Gary Chalk messed up and forgot to draw the flag on Kuchek, therefore making the reader to believe that there was only 6 cities.
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Book 5
Jul 23, 2008 13:27:05 GMT -5
Post by Aguila Saber on Jul 23, 2008 13:27:05 GMT -5
Interesting. What is the name of the 7th city? You've never heard of the problem in book 5 about the puzzle in section 331? There are seven cities in Vassagonia and they were supposed to be each identified with a flag on the map. However, Gary Chalk messed up and forgot to draw the flag on Kuchek, therefore making the reader to believe that there was only 6 cities. Kuchek? But it is part of Cloeasia! Won't help. Which city got the flag?
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Book 5
Jul 23, 2008 13:37:04 GMT -5
Post by Beowuuf on Jul 23, 2008 13:37:04 GMT -5
Heh, it shifts between Vassgonia and Cloeasia, to the point Simey has his basic plot about his character's fight to restore Kuchek to Cloeasia!
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Book 5
Jul 23, 2008 14:17:00 GMT -5
Post by Aguila Saber on Jul 23, 2008 14:17:00 GMT -5
You don't need the Map to know that Vassagonia has 7 cities. Just make a sure to read the Proclamation where you can buy the Black Sashes.
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Book 5
Jul 23, 2008 14:22:27 GMT -5
Post by Angantyr on Jul 23, 2008 14:22:27 GMT -5
As I've always said... - The map of book 4 shows Kuchek with a Vassagonian style symbol, and with a yellow Vassagonian flag. Cloeasian cities (well, the one) and towns are drawn differently.
- The map of book 5 also shows Kuchek with a Vassagonian style symbol (even though that's not much help, as the map only shows Vassagonia).
- The "POLITICAL AND GEOGRAPHICAL DIVISIONS OF NORTHERN MAGNAMUND" map in the Magnamund Companion shows that Kuchek is in Vassagonia; the border between Vassagonia and Cloeasia lies further to the east.
- Section 106 of book 4 states "The horses are a small stocky breed known as kucheks. They are named after a town and province of Vassagonia, a country many hundred of miles to the east."
It's completely clear that around year MS 5050, Kuchek is a Vassagonian city. Bonus ramblings: As the Magnamund Companion states that Cloeasia has lost much land to Vassagonia, I'd hazard a guess that the province of Kuchek consists of conquered lands north of the Vakar mountains, including the city of Kuchek, the town of Vakar, and perhaps also the island where the town of Samiz sits. It borders on Cloeasia, the Maakenmire, Casiorn, and the Vassagonian province of Ferufezan.
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Book 5
Jul 23, 2008 16:26:00 GMT -5
Post by Beowuuf on Jul 23, 2008 16:26:00 GMT -5
I hate to mention it, but the book 5 new publishing is slightly taller than the previous four books, so it looks a little kinked
A minor niggle i know, but i thought i would mention it for those who would care about such things
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Book 5
Jul 24, 2008 18:20:29 GMT -5
Post by Simey on Jul 24, 2008 18:20:29 GMT -5
It's completely clear that around year MS 5050, Kuchek is a Vassagonian city. Agreed. And also agreed that it is probably part of lands that Vassagonia has taken off Cloeasia. And this doesn't contradict the 'Seven founding cities of Vassagonia' thing either because Cloeasia only came into being when some Vassagonian dissidents moved north and formed the state (I think!), so Kuchek stands every chance of having been Vassagonian to start with then having become part of the new breakaway state of Cloeasia before latterly being taken by Vassagonia in a movement that may have persisted northwards had it not been for the events of the LW books, most particularly Vassagonia's complete defeat under Kimah whilst allied to the darklords. Personally, I do see the placement of the border between Vassagonia and Cloeasia in the MC as needing something like the above explanation because its positioning is across an area of plains - not the sort of terrain that I imagine would halt the advance of an aggressive Vassagonian army. South of Kuchek where the mountains reach close to the coast seems like a more natural border point when neither side is engaged in an aggressive action.
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Book 5
Jul 24, 2008 21:34:42 GMT -5
Post by Samildanach on Jul 24, 2008 21:34:42 GMT -5
Interesting. What is the name of the 7th city? You've never heard of the problem in book 5 about the puzzle in section 331? There are seven cities in Vassagonia and they were supposed to be each identified with a flag on the map. However, Gary Chalk messed up and forgot to draw the flag on Kuchek, therefore making the reader to believe that there was only 6 cities. Really? I've always got the right answer to that puzzle, as far as I remember.
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Book 5
Jul 25, 2008 7:01:49 GMT -5
Post by Bewildered Badger on Jul 25, 2008 7:01:49 GMT -5
Just got my copy today. I've only had a chance for a quick skim through, but it seems to be in good shape physically. I don't get the impression that it's about to either fall apart or snap shut, trapping my fingers! The missing equipment section is annoying, if it is intentional I wish they'd be more clear about it because it sure looks like an error. The mini adventure looks like it could be good too. BTW, am I the only one to spot a strong resemblance between the dwarven gunner at section 323 and an esteemed member of this forum ?
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Book 5
Jul 26, 2008 2:05:38 GMT -5
Post by Aguila Saber on Jul 26, 2008 2:05:38 GMT -5
Received my copy of Book #5 on Thursday...
* checks the picture on section 323 *
I agree B.B. There is some likeness between the two.
I read through the sections in game book 5, and I think it is missing. Probably the desire was to remake it but instead it has been taken away completely.
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Book 5
Jul 27, 2008 1:27:02 GMT -5
Post by Black Cat on Jul 27, 2008 1:27:02 GMT -5
Hey, who's the author of the Mini-adventure? Isn't it Richard Ford, aka Fordy (new TotS), aka BaneHawk (old TotS)?
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