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Post by NightHunter on Apr 18, 2008 22:20:05 GMT -5
Hi all,
I'm discovering right now this fantastic option about video game on PC with my RE4 game. It's nice to make Leon look like "The Crow" or make him as a clown. ;D
I'm just curious there. Is anyone here have done that before? And is there any illegal issues with modding? I'm searching for an answer and just asking myself if someone here can give me more information.
NH who's going to search again for a nude patch for Ada and Ashley(not EV's fiancé here ;D)
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Post by Agrarvyn on Apr 19, 2008 8:01:39 GMT -5
It depends on which game you're modding. After all, with the Elder Scrolls games, there's often more good quality modding than there is actual game material!
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Post by NightHunter on Apr 21, 2008 23:22:43 GMT -5
It depends on which game you're modding. Ah ok!!! Anyways, I have read a little on that and seriously, I don't see the point. It's like when you buy a car from Compagny X, you do some tune-up to get better performance and Compagny X sue you for that. I mean, you have bought your car and you have the right to do whatever you want with it, no? Same thing with a video game? The only issues I see it's, if you mod a game and sell it to anyone interessed. In this case, you have use the engine and the core of the game, only modifying something there and another one there. There you can have a copyright issues. I have add some mod on RE4 PC like a texture patch & lightning and hell yeah, the PC version have become better than the Gamecube version of the game. In this case, I don't see anything illegal in it.
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Post by Doomy on Apr 22, 2008 1:34:40 GMT -5
I believe the legal problem is to do with taking sections of copyrighted code (necessary to make almost any mod), then altering and redistributing it without permission.
That, I believe, is why the Doom modding movement only really took off when the engine was made open-source, but id Software still charge for XBLA or Steam downloads of the original games - the original graphics, sounds and maps are still copyright-protected and readily purchaseable.
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Post by NightHunter on Apr 22, 2008 2:13:39 GMT -5
Yeah, copyright. I see now. On Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ModdingAccording to that, Spain and Italy have not any law against it because they think like me. I'm moving. Hey Roark, searching for a roommate. LOL.
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Post by Agrarvyn on Apr 22, 2008 12:17:23 GMT -5
Well, if you ever read the End-User License that you have to agree to to install the game, it tells you that you have only bought a license to allow you to legally own and run the game. It never says anything about modifying the game or using their code to create modifications to it.
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Post by Ghost Bear on Apr 23, 2008 16:34:29 GMT -5
It depends on which game you're modding. After all, with the Elder Scrolls games, there's often more good quality modding than there is actual game material! Absolutely. Oblivion has some awesome Mods. And just to throw it out there, I recommend these: 1. Verona House: Bloodlines (better than the Oblivion main quest, but you can only start it after finishing the Main Quest) 2. Kvatch Aftermath (rebuild Kvatch) 3. Origins of the Mages Guild (adds some great extras to the Mages) 4. Akotosh Mount (because who doesn't want to ride a dragon?) I've also just downloaded Lost Spires, but haven't got very far into it yet. -GB
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Post by Agrarvyn on Apr 23, 2008 18:27:26 GMT -5
Morrowind also has some absolutely staggering mods, even six years after the game was released, some of which are even recognised as "standard" mods to use.
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Post by zipp on Apr 24, 2008 0:59:09 GMT -5
Being primarily a console gamer, I don't get to use mods very often. However, I still recognize the awesome potential mods have to increase the enjoyment of a game.
NH, they really can't sue you unless they find out you're doing it, and even then you'd have to be distributing your mods for profit or publicity (or dealing around some kind of porn mod which could get the manufacturer's in trouble).
It's true that some companies really take an unhealthy offense to people modding their game (sort've like asking a famous cook for more salt with your food), but seriously... how would they ever find out you're modding your games?
I don't believe you live in America with the constant eye of big brother on you
~ Zipp, hearing a knock and wondering if it's the FBI come to get him for that last st
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Post by NightHunter on Apr 24, 2008 1:40:31 GMT -5
Well, doing a mod by myself, I don't have yet the abilities for doing that. Apart RE4 on PC, I have never played a modded game nor doing it before. I was just discovering that lately, thats all. As you see, I own RE4 on PC and I was dissapointed by the quality of the game. Many fans was dissapointed of the PC port, even with the patch 1.10. I must say that if this game is being so much modded for better texture, lightning, etc...the producer and publisher have run after it. And I don't see the point on distributing and copyright of the code. The modder have pay for the game as the one who used the mod on his purshased game. So I don't see the chicken burning here. Ok, maybe if he used a pirated copy, but that, it's another problem. Zipp: That's not the FBI, it's Youtube's Admins that have come to tell you to stop to put scrap on their sites. Nah, just kidding!!!! Late Rules!!!!
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Post by Ghost Bear on Apr 24, 2008 3:24:57 GMT -5
The Elder Scrolls games actually provide a construction set to let people mod the games. I think the official LucasArts forums (makers of Knights of the old Republic) have a modding section. So some developers actually encourage it.
As far as Morrowind mods go, I've not played hardly any. I have a couple of house mods, but that's it. Mainly because I didn't get into Mods until I bought Oblivion, and Morrowind hasn't had a look in since then.
Don't get me wrong, Morrowind is awesome, but not as good as Oblivion for me.
-GB
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Post by Agrarvyn on Apr 24, 2008 7:30:54 GMT -5
Well, it's a fallacy that someone can't sue you for copyright infringement if you don't make money. Technically, you've already committed the crime, even if they don't choose to sue you. TSR's lawyers were very active at shutting down any AD&D websites they took exceptions to.
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Post by zipp on Apr 24, 2008 10:04:41 GMT -5
Well, it's a fallacy that someone can't sue you for copyright infringement if you don't make money. Technically, you've already committed the crime, even if they don't choose to sue you. TSR's lawyers were very active at shutting down any AD&D websites they took exceptions to. That's cause they have lots of money. Sueing has become the weapon of the big business to hurt the little guy. It's very rare that a small fry can have a succesful suit against a large company, even if they are in the right.
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Post by Agrarvyn on Apr 24, 2008 12:16:23 GMT -5
Ahhh. Don't you just love the smell of capitalism and litigation culture in the morning?
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Post by NightHunter on Apr 24, 2008 12:57:40 GMT -5
Ahhh. Don't you just love the smell of capitalism and litigation culture in the morning? Nice Apocalyspe Now quote.
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