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Post by Simey on Jun 29, 2010 18:07:19 GMT -5
I'm so, sooooo sorry it took so long. I have most of this week off, hence post, though I scribbled half of that on a train journey a couple of weeks back.
I'm really sorry to have stalled things for two whole months. My end of year report reads: Must try harder.
EDIT: Nice one, Zipp, for carrying straight on - am even more sorry for holding you up when you're so quick off the mark!
Have managed to continue myself, amazingly. But I can't help but be aware that this particular bit of action is rather focused around the resurrection of old WW stuff, so we shouldn't dwell solely on it for long - want to get things moving that everyone can contribute to.
Having said that, with regards to Armadalus and Sahmas at least, Simey's gone off to a somewhat isolated tent, so anyone determined enough might well interrupt him....in case that helps.
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Post by Beowuuf on Jun 30, 2010 16:26:02 GMT -5
Ok, I reckon I have (hopefully) done just that. Anyone who wants to join in with a mass of chaos creatures attacking can, and yet - for now - you guys still have a calm in the middle of the storm. And a bloody good reason to stop that scene when you finally feel it's done
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Post by Beowuuf on Jul 31, 2010 8:42:24 GMT -5
I know Zipp is GMing two games and has started work - does that mean the WW is dead for now?
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Post by zipp on Jul 31, 2010 9:59:23 GMT -5
For me, it does, unfortunately. Back when I was doing the LW MSN I had the time, but now I'm GMing those game you mentioned, working, and also trying to finish up the film in post and get my book finished for final drafting.
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Post by Beowuuf on Jan 28, 2011 16:35:25 GMT -5
Ok, seems silly to have the West Watch die just because the reboot hasn't really fanned any flames of creativity or collective storytelling.
Seems a narrative skip is in order. I'd like to have Simey and Armadalus (and presumaeably Doomy and Al) escape the encounter, the lone survivors. Perhaps an eventual recount of what they recall could be used to tell of Nighthunter's last stand, and the Chaos creatures.
Cloe and Sahmascould have managed to escape together too, wandering around in the wilds, giving Zipp an in for writing again if he wants later. Taht would be an interesting pairing, I think. Someone who would want to learn about wolfish ways, and be uncertain about himself in a way Beowuuf wasn't (or wasn't without dredging up a lot of backstory and twisting things).
Sera and eviltb can still be out there incase eviltb comes back or Zipp wants to continue the Chaos story, and perhaps a skip there too could allow for the fully realised next step of that tale someday.
That would set all the pieces up for the Chaos creatures to be the shark in the water, and the WW can be written in that calm where the attack has happened, and the shark has gone. Where is it, are we safe, etc.
Seems with the upper eshelons of the Magnamund Knight's Council killed, it could be a time for lots of fun intriguing, or it could be a way to phase out the organisation from 'canon' if it is no longer serving a purpose. Though I would be sad if that were thought the case.
Also, Zipp - in the KDJT so long ago - gave a plot hook to Beowuuf to be used in the West Watch, which I could use to ressurect him. As a charatcer his backstory wasn't really going to help a 'new' West Watch and I thought it was cool to add the danger element and introduce a fresher character. If the new plotline isn't really being embraced though, I kinda want him back. I wasn't finished with him!
Anyway, just a thought. Not sure what the WW interest is anymore!
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Post by Simey on Jan 31, 2011 23:26:28 GMT -5
Ah, just found this! Thought I was supposed to be figuring out your thoughts for the future of the WW from your cryptic post in the Chapter thread. I hereby register my interest. As long as there's at least one other person writing - whether the posts are related or not - I'm in. The above skipping-foward-a-bit-and-freeing-the-characters-to-continue-more-independently-but-still-keeping-it-related ideas seem just right. Yes, Beo, I vote bring Beowuuf back. It would be terrible to lose him to a WW direction that never happened. As I understand it, you killed him off - a mightily brave decision - because you felt he brought too much unrelated baggage to a 'new' WW. But as that newness is not to be - or not as it was intended a year ago - freedom to continue his story would seem to be re-bestowed. Whilst I certainly hope not to have seen the last of Sahmas, if there's any possibility of seeing Beowuuf's carry on, I'm all for it and will most certainly be reading. It's lovely to see posts of any kind in the West Watch forum after so long. That they might mark the breathing of a new bit of life into the story is a wonderful thing.
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Post by Beowuuf on Feb 1, 2011 3:00:22 GMT -5
You were, I snuck this in here to save face As I said, Sahmas is a better foil for Cloe with less baggage so I'll leave him with Cloe for now in the hopes Zipp starts writing again once at some point. Or when a good story beat means he can resurface. And yeah, since the idea was supposed to be keeping the Chaos Master as an unwritten NPC (not sure aboutthat one mysewlf, but that was the idea) then it makes as much sense that all the Chaotic actions are - for the moment - kunknown as a shark in the water.
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Post by Simey on Feb 1, 2011 9:02:12 GMT -5
Yeah, its very name suggests that Chaos is going to be unpredictable. An 'army' that has just pretty much wiped out an opposing force might typically be expected to follow up quickly on their victory so as not to give the enemy a chance to regroup. But Chaos' motivations - whatever they are - could well be such that having taken out the immediate threat of the knights' and dwarves' scouting army, it vanishes from plain sight once more and brings its influence to bear on the world in more subtle ways for a while. Perhaps the level of their power in this dimension fluctuates. Not that we actually need to define things like that.
Personally, I wouldn't definitively state that Sahmas, Cloe, Armadalus and Simey are the lone survivors of the attack, but I'd say that whether anyone else made it out, and who they were, can remain unknown.
One potential little bit of admin: short though it is, should Chapter 1 of Book 2 be left for now? If a definite break is to be made, but the Chaos story not discarded completely, would it feel right to stay in Book 2, but start Chapter 2?
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Post by Beowuuf on Feb 1, 2011 13:58:06 GMT -5
I also like the fact that while everyone is looking for a cunning tactical reason, the Chaos Master could just have got bored and has a new plan! Though there was never any hint of that sort of Chaotic nature in the gamebooks. Still would be a terrifying aspect though.
Also, the Chaos Master in Grey Star was very much a trickster and granting of wishes. The wiping out of the armies - or even just Nighthunter - could well have been a play for power by some small and petty man. Such a terrible cost (and unexpected, a horrific backfire) to gain that power.
Hmm, that might be interesting to play...
And I am very tempted to turn Book 2 back in to chapter 18 to be honest. However, I'd like more feedback from anyone else around as to whether to just go backto the old structure, or to carry on with the 'break' or whether to create a second break.
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Post by zipp on Feb 2, 2011 1:56:48 GMT -5
WHOA.
Hey everyone! Good to see West Watch talk again. Boy, I think it would be impossible for me to join in right now. I'm working on so many other Lone Wolf things (Female Lone Wolf, The Culling of the Kai, Askhati's game) as well as two unrelated gaming projects (Impetus and Ghost.Echoe) that my writing time to devote to the West Watch is just not going to be there!
I support the idea of pairing Cloe and Sahmas, though. That's where I was hoping to head way back when so if those two are together and ever me and Beowuuf find time to connect back here on the WW, it's a good matching to have. I was really in love with "crying sister," too, but I feel Evil TB has departed our community for shores unknown! I have an homage to him in Culling of the Kai but that's the closest I fear I'll ever get to writing with him again.
A Beo and Simey story is awesome.
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Post by Beowuuf on Feb 3, 2011 13:14:20 GMT -5
Oh, hey, this didn't show up on the main forum. Good thing I spotted your name and went 'huh'? Yeah, that match up should be cool, as you say you have a shedload of stuff going on. We'll see what the future holds! And I daresay if we ever got to the place where you and eviltb were planning on running, Sera could come back in to it as an NPC or PC anyway.
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Post by Simey on Feb 4, 2011 10:51:37 GMT -5
I suppose there's no harm in adding posts to the current chapter, is there? Whether it remains Book 2, Chapter 1 or becomes Chapter 18 can be decided any time. And I assume the power exists to split the thread without losing posts if necessary.
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Post by Beowuuf on Feb 4, 2011 13:51:32 GMT -5
Power might exist, but not available to me or other normal site staff It should be ok to carry on for a while, I think. There'll probably be a natural transition slipping back out again, and gathering people, and then perhapsa new chapter once we have personal jumping off points for new stories.
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Post by Simey on Feb 5, 2011 7:40:15 GMT -5
So what's your personal feeling as to how far to jump, both in time and geographically? Even if characters are ending up separated, it would seem sensible to have some relative consistency, at least as a start. Do we go mere hours ahead, a few miles away? Or weeks or months, possibly a long distance away in a different country? The latter type of jump would suggest to me starting a new chapter, to be honest.
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Post by Beowuuf on Feb 5, 2011 8:06:12 GMT -5
I would say a few hours ahead and a few miles away as a personal preference. Enough to create a bridge back to what happened, without having to fully resolve it. After the bridge, you can then jump a little more for a new chapter starting. Sounds like a plan? Or would you want to be able to start fresh and fill in all the blanks later? I can go either way, both are interesting
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