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Post by zipp on Mar 31, 2008 11:54:43 GMT -5
So did we ever decide whether we're beginning a new age of Magnamund?
Note that I don't neccesarily think this requires a time jump. If we're assuming the Kai Monastery to have been razed (TOTS destruction), we could start with that event and lead into the exodus into Southern Magnamund.
This isn't a time jump, but it provides a site encompassing event that should allow new writers an entry into the WW.
Right now, with all the pre established relationships and plot lines, I think it's hard for new members to join in.
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Post by Doomy on Mar 31, 2008 11:59:02 GMT -5
Speaking from a purely selfish point of view, I'd be more likely to contribute to the West Watch if it underwent some kind of reboot. I could never get into it previously due to the sheer amount of backstory I'd missed out on.
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Post by Black Cat on Mar 31, 2008 12:01:59 GMT -5
I don't want to reset the WW. I don't feel we have to. We can still go on as if nothing had happened regarding the main site. Ok, we might have lost Chapter 16 (or maybe not, depends if we can get back tidbits here and there), but I don't think we should restart from scratch. I still want to continue with my character, I'm not done with it. As for newbies, I don't think that having a lot of backstory for the world of Magnamund is something that makes them wonder if they can take part to the WW. I think it's more that, after seeing how good some of the actual writers are, they wonder if they are as good as them.
EDIT: Ok, Doomy says it's the backstory's fault, but I swear that you don't have to take it too much in consideration. Just go ahead with your posts and don't be scared to make errors because you won't.
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Post by Beowuuf on Mar 31, 2008 12:05:14 GMT -5
I was going to post this thread from the aon later - will add it here
I wish to crry on with the present storyline, I am too invested, if it is proved that wwe will reset once then what is to stop resetting again later too?
I have a catch up story of to jump right into the WW - Doomy, really, there is not much to know. There is alot of old chapters, but much of the stories are done, or if they are ongoign you can ask the participants to fill you in
Anywya, just barely back - will populate the WW forum with what I have during the evening
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Post by zipp on Mar 31, 2008 12:12:00 GMT -5
Maybe you guys misunderstood my suggestion. I'm not suggesting a reset, or a change of characters. I'm suggesting some widespread event affecting magnamund such as the Kai Monastery being destroyed and relocated (as we've had to do now) that any member can respond to.
You know, some event that forces new alliances and relationships, so that people coming in feel like they are coming in at the beginning of something, rather than in the middle of established plots and alliances.
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Post by Maerin on Mar 31, 2008 12:13:39 GMT -5
Well, one consideration might be to open a second storytelling forum, set in another time frame and such. You would want to place it far enough away, temporally speaking, from West Watch in order to prevent inconvenient overlaps now and in the future. But I do not readily see there being any problem. Sure, there might be one version of Maerin in West Watch, and a somewhat different version in a different time and place, but I don't expect anyone would find that to be at all confusing. And it is a way that each of us might take our one character in a number of different directions without getting particularly extreme about it.
I don't think anyone is necessarily misunderstanding you Zipp. But setting-encompassing events are much easier for people like you to participate in (and yes, despite your intentions, dominate) than newcomers. Add that to the inherent problems of adjudicating such an event...if one wants to do something like that, it is better done in the context of an isolated play-by-post game. I, for one, have no good views of setting cataclysms, because history in other fantasy settings has amply shown both their limitations and consequences (and yes, I am thinking of Dragonlance as one such example).
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Post by Black Cat on Mar 31, 2008 12:14:19 GMT -5
Ok, so you want a BIG EVENT bringing people together? Like the old siege of Toran when we were like 10 members or so writing about it?
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Post by zipp on Mar 31, 2008 12:14:52 GMT -5
I think we posted at the same time, though with different suggestions!
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Post by Simey on Mar 31, 2008 12:27:19 GMT -5
EDIT: Ok, Doomy says it's the backstory's fault, but I swear that you don't have to take it too much in consideration. Just go ahead with your posts and don't be scared to make errors because you won't. It's true that - I hesitated for ages because of wondering how on Magnamund I could try and fit into something so vast. But Magnamund's a big place - the likelyhood of doing something wildly contradictory to what someone else has done is very small, and even if that does happen, how much does it really matter? Plus, on PA Beo did a nice little run through of the main big points of the WW Story So Far - it's a read of five minutes or less, nothing terrifying at all. As for a big WW event that effects everyone, I'm not sure I'm too keen on something that would radically change what I've been doing so far. Though if someone could just nuke Eshnar, that might help. ;D
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Post by Beowuuf on Mar 31, 2008 12:29:54 GMT -5
The trouble is the net gain is still the same - all of us people wishing to carry on with the previous stories would have to hurridly tail them off and join in this new plot. Similarly, the Kai Monastery which is a familiar ground for new writers to grasp, would be gone making the WW even more alien and adding a who;e new backstory you have to learn before joining.
Can i suggest that yes, an earth shaking earthquake hits the WW world right now, felt by everyone. What it portents, those of us still in normal series do not know.
Zipp, you can lead the charge in showing us what that earthquake actually was a about - somehting got ripped up in Magnamund (a new maakengorge or a toppled mountain speaking of somehting big having happened, mirroring tots) , but without it breakign the world of Lone Wolf and alienating us from all fans of the books who will see our world as too far removed.
If this destruction o nthe fringes has happened in Southern Magnamund, or fractures some known but not currently written land, then cool.
Perhaps somehtign really big - the tentarius ripped open wider, making it very, very dangerous to travel across now. You would have to go aroudn the outside, and overland to get there - making new dangers and new shifts in politics.
It would be a political situation that might attract the attentions of even those not particularly affected in the north.
Anyway, that was off the top of my head - sound like more the idea? Big, but doens't affct existing stories, just provides a new window.
Or something
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Post by zipp on Mar 31, 2008 12:30:35 GMT -5
As for a big WW event that effects everyone, I'm not sure I'm too keen on something that would radically change what I've been doing so far. Though if someone could just nuke Eshnar, that might help. ;D We don't need every last person to be involved in the change, but if a large group of people could agree to it, I really do think it could be advertised as a good stepping in point for new members. You know, something like.... you don't have to know anything else about the history of the WW, you just need to know there's this disaster and people are banding together to deal with it. There's plenty of ins for evil characters as well. Hell, I would jump back in to participate in something like that.
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Post by Black Cat on Mar 31, 2008 12:30:39 GMT -5
Oh, we can think of something... You know, just let everybody bring their current storyline to a close, let them wait a while and then bring in a big event.
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Post by Beowuuf on Mar 31, 2008 12:33:25 GMT -5
And leave Eshnar alone! It's just gotta carry on brewing in that Power Shield with no one knowing what's lurking on the inside...
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Post by Beowuuf on Mar 31, 2008 12:36:45 GMT -5
As was counter posted by someone, the trouble with the WW was that it was too epic - too many huge level characters doing huge things and the world changing in a dime. No wonder people are oscared to join! Some of the best stuff has been Simey and his smaller crusade for his home land, and Dharn. Both have touched big stories, but at heart aren't powerful men changing things in big ways, just being in the right place at the right or wrong times, sometimes, and otherwise living their lives.
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Post by Simey on Mar 31, 2008 12:37:16 GMT -5
And leave Eshnar alone! It's just gotta carry on brewing in that Power Shield with no one knowing what's lurking on the inside... Oh no....Kai Brew!
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